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Wednesday, January 17, 2007

Speaking of Secular Education . . . Gilui Daas

When you're worried about the World to Come, I guess you don't have to worry about tomorrow!





Folks - let's go with the flow!

7 Comments:

Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der ┼íteg) said...

LOL... this looks familiar...

7:24 AM  
Blogger TheProf said...

OK here we go. First of all, since olam habo is where we are headed for, we should only worry about that and not about tomorrow which is in the able and qualified hands of Hashem. Next on to the issur. Learning about Chukei hateva, although definitely not qualifying as Torah, if taught under the auspices of a yeshiva environment will bring out and enhance a person's realization that Creation is a miracle and marvel of Hashem. To a great extent, it can serve as a way of lifting the hidden veil of ruchniyos that tevah, habit of one's actions, and olam hazeh which hides ruchniyos, bring to one's life by making one realize that everything is run by Hashem. Should I really be controversial and say Torah U'Madoh? Look closely at one of the lines about Yiddishe kinder not learning mispor, arithmatic or math. The Rosh Yeshiva of Telz, Harav Hagaon Rav Gifter Ztzl says in a shmus on Shavuos and quotes a vort from the Shem Mi'Shmuel Ztzl about the meaning of the song from the Seder, Echod ani yodeah. What does it mean that I know that Echod is the achdus of Hashem? He says that when Hashem created the concept of mispor, it was that the number 1 IS Hashem, the number 2 IS shnei luchos, the number 3 IS the avos, et al. Now that the numbers are created, we can use them for normal counting. But the concept is of ruchniyos. As the creation of gold was meant for the Bais hamikdosh but can now be used for jewelry too. Of course pure Torah learning must be the mainstay of study for yiddishe kinder. But they must still exist in olam hazeh too. Our tachlis in olam hazeh is to live in it and bring out the hidden pnimiyus of kedusha within the tevah.

9:18 AM  
Blogger Leapa said...

Steg - yes, I just picked it up somewhere.

Prof: I believe it was Galileo who said "when G-d wrote the book of creation, he wrote it in the language of mathematics".

Not appreciating creation, or a naive and mistaken appreciation of it, leads to problems in Daas.
Not just the problem of lack of emunah but the equally or more important problem of naive or misplaced emunah which is later discovered by oneself or others to be ignorant.

12:35 PM  
Blogger Leapa said...

I apologize to my readers, and have posted an edited version.

4:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is incredible. Where and when did you see this? Are you pulling our legs?

5:09 PM  
Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der ┼íteg) said...

anonymous:

it was a purim satire.

6:15 PM  
Blogger TheProf said...

ayioyrlgYes it was obviously a spoof as evidenced by the signatures. But behind any spoof is the fact that the satirists are reflecting a societal ethos in a skewed manner. Fact is that many in our society do feel this way, that all secular knowledge is assur.

9:10 AM  

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