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Wednesday, November 01, 2006

Throwing My Bread Upon the Waters

My chevrusa challenged me to post the following question, which is not in sync with the calendar, but is apropos the current and next month's Daf Yomi.

1. Why is Rosh Hoshana on the first and second day of Tishrei, rather than on the 30th of Elul and the first of Tishrei?

2. Why is Rosh Hoshana 2 days in Israel?

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6 Comments:

Blogger TheProf said...

The reason Rosh Hashono is on 1 and 2 Tishrei and not 30 Elul and 1 Tishrei like other molei month end Rosh Chodesh is that the 1st day of Rosh Hashono would then actually be the last day of last year. Since the 1st day is actually 1 Tishrei, all of the Yomtov is in the New Year.
The reason it is also 2 days in Israel is because when Chazal originally made Rosh Hashono 2 days, it was during the time of the Bais Hamikdosh and the concept remained after the Churban because of the concept of "ishtaked", people may forget from year to year and observe the Yomtov on the wrong date.

2:12 PM  
Blogger Avromi said...

Look at your comment on http://www.blogger.com/publish-comment.do?blogID=30932360&postID=116234081038976867&r=ok
where I responded.
I'm not sure about prof's 'ishtaked' sevara regarding this though.

4:09 PM  
Blogger Avromi said...

here's the link - sorry

http://dafnotes.blogspot.com/2006/11/daf-yomi-beitza-5-decrees-where-reason.html

4:11 PM  
Blogger Avromi said...

As far as your first question goes, i would disagree with the professor since rashi on today's daf explicitly states that when the witnesses didnot come until mincha, both days would be rosh hashana and the first day would be elul 30 and the next day 1 tishrei.

4:22 PM  
Blogger Leapa said...

Actually, Prof, I don't understand why it has to be in the same year.

It would seem to me, judging by the end of the daf, that we want to number the yomim tovim from the first day of the year, so we start with Tishrei 1, but we don't abrogate the takana.

Does this make sense, Avromi and Prof?

7:31 PM  
Blogger Avromi said...

i responded again on my site. keep up the good work.

8:04 PM  

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