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Monday, April 03, 2006

Secular Education III

Philadelphia Yeshiva is noted for having a strong secular studies department. The Roshei Yeshiva have, as in most yeshivas, little contact with the 'lowly' Mesivta students under normal circumstances. But a talmid once said that the sure fire way to get an 'invitation' to R. Elia or R' Shmuel's office was to disrupt English. In fact, the Roshei Yeshiva made a practice of occasionally strolling down the classroom hallway during the beginning or end of English, or between sessions, to make a point of emphasis.

Good way to develop midos, huh?

A famous Rosh Yeshiva, no longer with us, didn't agree.

He once said: "R' Elia and R' Shmuel will have to account in the world of truth, (asid litain din) for why they made such a quality English program."



Blogger almost_frei said...

"Good way to develop midos, huh?"

Perhaps.. but a good way to make productive graduates!

10:15 AM  
Anonymous insideatrojanhorse said...

was the detractor of the policies instituted by Reb Shmuel Kamenitsky, chasidish or litivish? or to frame the question in a different way is the ideal for the Jewish world to be unskilled laborers and cope graduates with a technical skill, or business entrepenuers? somehow any society including the the frum one (sorry but i don't think we can escape the sociological dynamics of being human)is more complex than creating a one dimensional cookie cutter assembly line educational system that tries to fit a square peg into round hole. or if he you would like a more Jewish backdrop cutting off the legs of guests/talmidim to fit the bed. i think its called middos sodom.

5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Rabbi 'famous Rosh Yeshiva' now giving din as to why his alumni can't make a living?

12:29 PM  
Anonymous aaron said...

Are you sure you have the context in which that statement was made correct? In other words, maybe that was a sarcastic shtuch at the kannoim. Or maybe not. Is there a first hand account of that statement?

4:56 PM  
Blogger Leapa said...

Did not hear it first hand, but heard it from a temimusdike ben torah in a position to get good information.

4:34 PM  

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