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Monday, August 01, 2005

Bobov - The Shape of Things to Come (?)

I'm posting this in raw form since I am traveling overseas and my computer time is limited. I intend to edit and improve it piecemeal.

In my overseas chasana pregrination, I've discovered an amazing phenomenon. Chareidim of all stripes are using the apparent rise of R' Mordechai Dovid Unger to 'tish' parity with R' Ben Tzion Halberstam as a paradigm for the future of many other kreisen with less than stellar leaders or mediocre heir apparents.

And within these various groups, the argument about Bobov rights and wrongs is really a surrogate argument about the future direction of each respective group.

Status quo advocates are still predicting R' MD's demise as a Rebbe and saying the situation cannot hold even as his following blooms and blossoms.

Revolutionary types are rooting for him all the way.

This reminds me of the historical role of the Spanish Civil War as a stalking horse for WWII.

On 7/10, I posted a piece on meritocracy vs aristocracy. It's a healthy thing for the Jewish people that this debate continue, in some form at least.


Blogger Zoe Strickman said...

Good luck with your trip. Good posts, and good readership on your site too. Would you mind adding a link to mine? I'd do the same.

9:58 PM  
Anonymous kendal deerson said...

this post is getting dangerously close to a class on world history at Telshe High School. i wonder how healthy it is to make cross connections from a secular reality to the Torah world. the dynamics are totally different we end up demeaning Klal Yisroel with the association to the crass violent brutal world of Mr. Franco and Company on the Right. Or the Lincoln Brigade on the Left with Ernie thats Hemingway not Bert's friend, come to think of it maybe the two ernies are interchangable.
by the way mazel tov again

9:05 AM  
Blogger Circle in Square said...

Dangerously close?

You're right! Who needs something as dangerous as history?

5:47 PM  
Blogger ClooJew said...

I have to say that, lulei demistafina, I did not understand your post. I would like to, but I didn't.

8:40 PM  
Anonymous kendal deerson said...

history is useful only as a tool to make the contrast between Klal Yisroel and the Nations of the World. the human dynamics are the same. but a qualitative difference must be made. theoritically we should begin where the non Jewish secular and religious worlds end. In other words Emersonian Ethics should be self evident. unfortunately and sometimes tragically this is not the case. simplistically it is all a by product of a golus mentality. the trick is to make this golus into a positive. thats one trick which i think requires Divine Intervention.

10:54 PM  
Blogger Leapa said...

cloo - if you're talking about the original post, I did it on the run while overseas. I'll try to rewrite it soon.

6:29 PM  
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