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Wednesday, December 14, 2005

Metzitza B'Pa

From the NYC Department of Health Disease Control Bureau:

The New York City Department of Health recommends against the practice (Metzitza B'Pa), but in any case suggests that parents be told before the bris if MbP is to be used, so that they can make an informed decision...

In November 2004, the Health Department was notified of 3 male infants with HSV-1. All were circumcised by one mohel (Mohel B), who performed metzitzah b’peh. The infants developed herpes infection in the genital area 8-10 days after circumcision and were hospitalized for several weeks. One baby died from the infection. Two cases were reported by physicians in 2005 and both are also consistent with infection from metzitzah b’peh. Every case occurred in the time frame consistent with transmission from metzitzah b’peh.

Our investigation found Mohel B to be the source of the 2004 cases, and metzitzah b’peh to be the means of infection for these and other cases...

With an estimated average of fewer than 30 cases of all forms of infant herpes infections occurring per year in New York City, the odds of one mohel being associated with 3 cases of neonatal herpes are infinitesimally small (about 6.9 million to 1)...

Three investigations published within the past 5 years (from New York City [1], Israel [2, 3] and Canada[3]) describe 11 cases of males with HSV-1 infections on their genitals following metzitzah b’peh...

Sincerely,
Susan Blank, MD, MPH Julia Schillinger, MD, MSc

Assistant Commissioner Director of Surveillance, Epidemiology, and Research

Bureau of Sexually Transmitted Disease Control
New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene1
25 Worth Street
New York, NY 10013

Question: we do not accept most of the cures in chazal due to meshona ha teva.
Why is this different?
And if you say '
mesora',then how about pikuach nefesh?

8 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

my advise is back off from this kind of blogging. this is a matter of Mili D'Shmaya. journalistic voyeruism is a bad brew. lets not let our fantasies of woodwarding (as in bob not eight mile road) overtake us into area that is not suitable for this blog. this blog has the danger to veer to the left into a morass of american grafitti. i don't think we have to worry about veering to the extreme rightwing fanaticism of postermania. i would like to see more issues on education addressed as which hits home to the vast silent majority of your readership.

11:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3. According to a report in the Kashrus Magazine, July 2005, in the case of the Flatbush twins, the first baby had a rash before the circumcision. The mohel refused to do the circumcision without a doctor’s approval. Afterwards, it became known that the rash was a herpes rash. In other words, the baby was infected before the circumcision. The mohel also took seven DNA tests for the herpes virus and all were negative. The mohel also took the IDG test, which can show whether a person had the herpes virus in the past few months. Again, the mohel was negative. From these facts, it is clear that the mohel is completely innocent of any wrongdoing. An innocent man is being unjustly victimized. Is the Department of Health aware of this information?

Also, in the case of the third baby, metzitza b'peh was not done.

This is just a pack of disinformation from the health department.

12:30 PM  
Blogger Circle in Square said...

Anon 1: My intention is not to give or necessarily get a definitive answer, it is to explore the subject.
Another form of learning with the advantage of anonymity.

Anon 2: Why would you think they have it in for one individual mohel? They are claiming there is a statistical correlation here. The same system which linked lung cancer and cigarettes.

2:10 PM  
Anonymous deerson said...

come on for the sake of learning? are you really serious. this is form of relaxation. this is a place to blow off steam. learning should have a totally different connotation for us.

6:25 PM  
Blogger Circle in Square said...

I said "another form of learning".
And since when can one not blow off steam and learn something.
Methinks you've experienced that.

8:06 PM  
Anonymous deerson said...

you lost me on the different form of learning. i am not sure what you mean beyond this blog being a source of gathering information to understand an issue in its proper perspective. or are you going mc cluanesque on me that the medium is the message in that case you should know zappa is died in the nineties.

10:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many Chassidishe Rabbonim and Dayonimin our community hold that it should be stopped. They just can't speek out.

11:33 PM  
Anonymous deerson said...

to the last mr. anonymous thats absurd. no one is physically putting a gag on anyone in this country. we live in a western democractic society that allows freedom of expression. if they really wanted to they could speak out on anything their hearts desires. obviously they choose not to.

1:43 PM  

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